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A Conversation with Madeleine Albright

by Dorinda Elliott | Published May 2008 | See more Condé Nast Traveler articles

CNT: How do you think the world sees us?

Albright: As selfish. Many people think that the United States has contributed to the gap between rich and poor because although we are rich, we are next to last in terms of money we give for foreign assistance. People think we are a country with technology, innovation, and infrastructure, but one that doesn't share. CNT: What are the ramifications?

Albright: If other countries see us as selfish, they're not going to help us fight global warming or nuclear proliferation or terrorism. CNT: Do you believe in a clash of civilizations with the Islamic world?

Albright: I do believe in a battle of ideas, but I don't think it's about civilizations. It's more like the civilized and the uncivilized. Anyone who murders innocent people is uncivilized.

CNT: Can Islam and democracy coexist?

Albright: Yes. Look at Turkey, an example of a Muslim country that has promoted democracy.

CNT: Who was your favorite adversary at the negotiating table?

Albright: It's hard if you like the person on the other side of the table. Yevgeny Primakov, Russia's foreign minister, and I got along although he had been part of the old Soviet system. We would have dinner and discuss our common experiences, and then sit across the table the next day and talk tough. It's easier to negotiate with somebody you don't like.

Interview by Dorinda Elliott

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